– This is exactly what society needs to hear! It is okay to disagree, but it is also important to reflect and understand the points they come up with. This is just one of almost 500 comments under the YouTube video Baris vs. Marstein on YouTube. A video watched by over 200,000 in two days. Affects Sebastian “Baris” Brevik met artist Jo Almaas Marstein, two people who have completely different opinions. For over 40 minutes, they discussed immigration, gender equality, climate and cultural support. And the audience loves it. “Thank you Marstein for joining the debate, hope this helps more young people by voting on the election!” “All in all, thanks to Baris and especially Marstein for showing up away to dare to have dialogue! Lovely » – it is the rich who create the values ​​tax for the rich was one of the topics where Brevik and Marstein disagreed. – I’d rather tax wealth than work. If you earn on average in this country, you are more and more that you cannot own a home. It may have to do with the tax burden, but it also has that you do not tax the rich enough. As a result, the differences increase, says Marstein. Brevik disagrees. – It is the rich who create the values. And if the rich are not the right incentive, then the poorest will get worse. In what way, Marstein asks. – They move to other countries, create their values ​​there and tax there instead. The workplaces go there and as a whole, those who have the worst will get worse. Want to avoid polarization 10 percent of those who have seen the video are under 18, half are between 18 and 24. The conversation went just fine. I had to say what I had in my heart, says Marstein. He believes it is important to show that young people have different opinions about things, and that it is important to discuss in a factual way. – The worst thing that could happen was that there was more polarization out of it. We got to the contrary, and that’s a bit what I feel “underground” has meant all the way. You can think something even if those around you do not agree with you, and it goes just fine as long as you can talk about it. Marstein won this year’s Spellemann a short time ago, and is known to get involved. Photo: Christian Ziegler Remme / news When Young Marstein also thinks was an important to meet Brevik on his own platform. – It is a platform that reaches many young people. If you are going to boycott it, you also boycott many young people. – These people do not look at the debate. It gets too heavy, and it doesn’t reach them. They look at these stuff instead. Marstein hopes the video makes more young people engage in politics. – I am an artist and have a voice. Then I don’t know what to do if I don’t use that voice to say what I feel. – Some write: It was a healthy and good discussion, we have too few arenas to take those discussions. What do you think about it? – I feel a vorspiel or school lunch can also be the arena for these discussions. The problem is when they just take place anonymously on the internet. But by all means, would probably have been nice with several arenas for it. Controversial It is the “guys” who have published the video, a bunch that together create content for several platforms. They have on several occasions criticized the content they have created. A short time ago, Brevik had a similar debate with many young people. Naomi Oseki was one of those who contributed at that time, and who subsequently said that she had received a lot of heat to line up. Kaja Stenmoe Andersen that news meets on the street says that she has seen debates from the “guys” in the past, and that these have been more heated. – But I think this was a nice chat. – I think it is exciting that we have two such large profiles among young people, who can discuss such a problem from two different sides, says Vilde Try Sporsheim. Huge response Sebastian Brevik has not had the opportunity to answer news, but Snorre Klanderud is also one of the part of the “guys” – I think young people are more politically engaged than many think. He believes the concept is to avoid echo chambers, and that it is nice that two people who disagree can meet in a public arena. – We expect that it was going to be a good response, but that it would be so good we probably didn’t think. – Why? – You have “Baris” which is the front figure of what many call “Baris’s soldiers” – which many think is very controversial. And then you have Marstein who is a well -known cultural profile that is a bit on the other side of the political spectrum. When they meet and disagree with opinions, but at the same time manage to have a neat debate – people appreciate it. – Do you think it lacks arenas? – There are not so many arenas where the young people meet and discuss. Most of the adults are doing it. If the young people discuss, it is in the comments field at Tiktok, where it is about doing the most shit. Snorre Klanderud is one of the part of the concept “Gutta” Photo: news / news wants healthier debate climate – we think it is important to get the turnout among the young people. It is important that people vote, that they discuss and are more factual with each other and not just throw shit on social media. And we feel that we have contributed. There will also be several similar videos from the “guys” in the future, Klanderud shouts. They have already recorded episodes with, among others, Mímir Kristjánsson and Simen Velle. – We notice that people are interested in debates and that they appreciate the content. Hopefully it will create healthier debate climate among young people. – Good that they use their influence – it is certainly difficult for the parties and politicians to reach the very youngest voters. This is stated by Johannes Bergh, who is the head of research for politics, democracy and civil society and head of the parliamentary election survey at the Department of Social Research. He has not seen the debate, but still believes that this is a positive contribution. – The fact that there are discussions about politics and disagreements on platforms other than the traditional is very positive. Democracy is for everyone, not just for those who are very interested in politics. It’s good that they use their influence. Bergh also thinks something else is coming out of such a debate. – It is important to learn that it is perfectly ok to disagree. It is problematic in many other countries, for example, that you end up hating each other because you have different opinions. Election researcher Johannes Bergh. Photo: NTB Published 01.05.2025, at. 08.46



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