{"id":79908,"date":"2024-03-04T05:12:49","date_gmt":"2024-03-04T05:12:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/learning-companies-say-no-to-attempts-to-remove-order-grades-news-rogaland-local-news-tv-and-radio\/"},"modified":"2024-03-04T05:12:51","modified_gmt":"2024-03-04T05:12:51","slug":"learning-companies-say-no-to-attempts-to-remove-order-grades-news-rogaland-local-news-tv-and-radio","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/learning-companies-say-no-to-attempts-to-remove-order-grades-news-rogaland-local-news-tv-and-radio\/","title":{"rendered":"Learning companies say no to attempts to remove order grades &#8211; news Rogaland &#8211; Local news, TV and radio"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>&#8211; Aibel does not want the grade for order and behavior to be removed, says section manager and apprentice manager Ellen Tvergrov at Aibel AS in Haugesund.  Ellen Tvergrov is section manager and apprentice manager at Aibel in Haugesund.  Photo: Gisle J\u00f8rgensen \/ news The oil service company has over a hundred apprentices at the shipyard at any given time.  &#8211; The grade is an indication of the attitude of the student applying for an apprenticeship.  That you can show consideration, have respect for others and come when you have to, says Tvergrov.  This school year, the Norwegian Directorate of Education has launched a three-year experiment.  Instead of the students getting a grade for order and behavior on the certificate, the teachers must follow up with conversations.  Facts about the grading trial: Before new curricula were introduced in 2020, local trials were carried out in Rogaland and M\u00f8re og Romsdal, with positive experiences.  Since the consultation responses were divided in their views on the provision, Udir decided to carry out a national trial in order to obtain a better knowledge base. .  Through the experiment, Udir wants to obtain knowledge about whether assessment in order and behavior without a grade fulfills this purpose in a better way than the current system with a grade.  Even if the schools remove the grade in the experiment, the students must still be assessed in both order and behaviour.  The schools are responsible for further developing an assessment practice without a grade during the experimental period, and exploring other methods of giving feedback to the students, which replace the grade. The Nordic Institute for Studies of Innovation, Research and Education (NIFU) will evaluate the experiment.  Udir will then assess whether there is reason to look at this provision again.  The students who take part in the experiment will receive a certificate in which there will be a dotted line where the grade usually appears, and where a note must be entered describing that the student is taking part in an extension without a grade.  Source: Directorate of Education (Udir) 80 schools participate.  About a third are upper secondary schools, where students who take vocational subjects also go on apprenticeships.  St\u00e5le Christiansen from Sveio is a sheet metal worker&#8217;s apprentice.  Photo: Gisle J\u00f8rgensen \/ news &#8211; I think it is unfortunate that the character disappears for those who will need it.  Then it may be that you are excluded from applying for a job in some places, says sheet metal worker apprentice at Aibel, St\u00e5le Christiansen.  Are you wondering whether you need to think about a pension when you are a student or apprentice?  Check this case.  Training companies react The experiment applies to all education programmes, but it is particularly in the vocational subjects that the reactions have come.  Without the grade, apprenticeship companies lose one of the tools they have when choosing apprentices.  The information they can get from the schools is, among other things, limited by the duty of confidentiality.  &#8211; I have spoken to twelve training offices for various industries, and the answer is quite unison.  The vast majority agree that this attempt is not a good idea, says Ove Johan Aklestad, general manager at the Training Office for industrial subjects in Rogaland, OFIR.  Ove Johan Aklestad is general manager at the Training Office for industrial subjects in Rogaland, OFIR.  Photo: Anett Johansen Espeland \/ news OFIR is responsible for contact with 900 apprentices at 390 industrial companies.  &#8211; Many companies say that the first thing they look for is order, behavior and absence on the competence certificate of potential apprentices.  If they don&#8217;t keep order, it affects both the delivery and health, environment and safety, says Aklestad.  &#8211; Wrong medicine The timing could not have been worse, says the Progress Party.  &#8211; We will strongly warn against this project.  It is completely the wrong medicine when we see a school with high dropout rates, increased bullying and violence.  Then we don&#8217;t need less discipline, says Frp&#8217;s school policy spokesperson at the Storting, Himanshu Gulati.  Himanshu Gulati is the Frp&#8217;s school policy spokesperson in the Storting.  Photo: Bj\u00f8rn Inge Bergestuen \/ Frp What he is talking about are the problems of the past year, with increasing youth violence, and more bullying, unrest and noise, also in schools.  &#8211; If you think that not making demands on order and behavior prepares students for life, then you are completely wrong, says Gulati.  Political leadership in the Ministry of Education defends the attempt.  State Secretary in the Ministry of Education, Synn\u00f8ve Mjeldheim Skaar (Ap).  Photo: Kristine Urke Johansen \/ news &#8211; We will take problems with violence and unrest in schools very seriously, but I don&#8217;t think it is this experiment with how you keep grades on the diploma that will pay off, says State Secretary Synn\u00f8ve Mjeldheim Skaar (Ap).  &#8211; But more apprenticeship companies are skeptical?  &#8211; It is an important feedback.  Order and behavior are assessed, and the apprenticeship companies need this information.  Then you have to find out how they can get it with this attempt.  These schools are included in the grading test: Akademiet realfagsgymnas Sandvika, B\u00e6rumAustb\u00f8 school, StavangerAustmarka primary and secondary school, KongsvingerBergeland primary and secondary school, RogalandBrumunndal secondary school, RingsakerBrunla secondary school, LarvikBryne primary secondary school, RogalandB\u00e6rum alternative school, B\u00e6rumB\u00f8 secondary school, Karm\u00f8yCicignon school, FredrikstadThe Norwegian school Costa Blanca (Foreign schools in Spain)Owned junior high school, StadEilert Sundt high school, AgderFrakkagjerd high school, Tysv\u00e6rGlemmen high school, one department, \u00d8stfoldGodalen high school, RogalandGr\u00f8dem school, RandabergHakadal high school, NittedalHalden high school, YF participates, possible also SF, \u00d8stfoldHaugaland high school, RogalandHetland high school, RogalandHjelmeland school, HjelmelandHjerleid handverkskole as, DovreHov secondary school, RingerikeHuseby secondary school, TrondheimInder\u00f8y secondary school, Inder\u00f8yInndyr school, Gildesk\u00e5lJ\u00f8rpeland secondary school, StrandKarmsund primary school, RogalandKjelle secondary school, AkershusKj\u00f8sterud school, DrammenKl\u00e6bu secondary school, TrondheimKongsvinger secondary school, KongsvingerKristen secondary school Hauglandet, RogalandKristianslyst school, StavangerKr\u00e5ker\u00f8y secondary school, FredrikstadKvelde school, LarvikLangnes school, Troms\u00f8Lakselv bay school, Troms\u00f8Lesja school, LesjaLesjaskog school, LesjaMarienlyst school, DrammenMarkaplassen school, TrondheimMoelv junior high school, Ringsaker Montessori school Morgan ASM\u00f8llehagen vgs, RogalandNes junior high school, RingsakerNittedal junior high school, NittedalNTG Bergen (Norway&#8217;s top sports gymnasium) NTG Bod\u00f8 (Norway&#8217;s top sports gymnasium) NTG-U Asker (Norway&#8217;s top sports gymnasium) NTG-U Bergen (Norway&#8217;s Top Sports Gymnasium) NTG-U Bod\u00f8 (Norway&#8217;s Top Sports Gymnasium) NTG-U B\u00e6rum (Norway&#8217;s Top Sports Gymnasium) Nyg\u00e5rdsj\u00f8en Early Childhood Center, Gildesk\u00e5lOasen School GrenlandRingstadbekk School, B\u00e6rumRomerike Steinerskole, Lillestr\u00f8mR\u00e6lingen Vgs, AkershusSandhorn\u00f8y School, Gildesk\u00e5lSauda Vgs, RogalandSkedsmo Vgs, some departments, AkershusSkeisvang Vgs, RogalandSkudenes secondary school, Karm\u00f8ySola primary school, RogalandStangeland secondary school, Karm\u00f8yStavanger cathedral school, RogalandSt.  Olav pre-school, RogalandStrand pre-school, RogalandS\u00f8rarn\u00f8y school, Gildesk\u00e5lTastarust\u00e5 school, StavangerTelemark Toppidrett Ungdomsskole Porsgrunn, TelemarkTolga school (un. grade), TolgaTysv\u00e6rv\u00e5g primary and secondary school, Tysv\u00e6rVormedal junior high school, Karm\u00f8y\u00c5sheim Ungdomsskole, Trondheim\u00c5ssiden pre-school, some departments, BuskerudWangAS (pre-school), Oslo Kilde : Directorate of Education Will talk to the students Godalen high school in Stavanger is participating in the experiment.  Among those who have their apprenticeship ahead of them, there are also divided opinions.  Student David Dahl believes in removing the order grade.  Photo: Anett Johansen Espeland \/ news &#8211; I think the experiment is very good.  We are becoming more independent.  In business, you can&#8217;t be late.  So it is very good that we are learning it now, says David Dahl, who is a vocational student at Godalen.  Among the teachers, too, some have been convinced.  &#8211; It works better than expected.  I was very skeptical at the start, but I see that we are able to shape the students in this area as well, says teacher in industrial technology, \u00d8ystein Oddvar Utvik.  Welding lesson at Godalen upper secondary school.  Teacher \u00d8ystein Oddvar Utvik follows up pupil David Dahl.  Photo: Anett Johansen Espeland \/ news The school management admits that there is also some scepticism.  &#8211; Some teachers say that there is no use in talking to each other.  That they do not progress and achieve change in the student.  But all in all, it&#8217;s mostly going well, says Solveig L\u00f8ndalen, head of department for industrial and technology subjects (TIF) at the school.  Several TIF pupils at Godalen want their order grade back.  Solveig L\u00f8ndalen is department head for technology and industrial subjects at Godalen upper secondary school.  Photo: Anett Johansen Espeland \/ news &#8211; When you are applying for an apprenticeship, and the company wants to see if you are tidy and smart, arrive on time and are ready for working life, then it is probably best to have good grades, says Kristian Robberstad.  Mathias Bjerga Granli agrees.  &#8211; If you have done a good job at school, it will be on the diploma.  And if you have a bad record, they can just exclude you right away.  VG2 students Kristian Robberstad (left) and Mathias Bjerga Granli.  Photo: Anett Johansen Espeland \/ news What do you think about the case?  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