{"id":5871,"date":"2022-07-09T19:40:27","date_gmt":"2022-07-09T19:40:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/parents-follow-their-children-on-various-map-services-news-norway-overview-of-news-from-different-parts-of-the-country\/"},"modified":"2022-07-09T19:40:29","modified_gmt":"2022-07-09T19:40:29","slug":"parents-follow-their-children-on-various-map-services-news-norway-overview-of-news-from-different-parts-of-the-country","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/parents-follow-their-children-on-various-map-services-news-norway-overview-of-news-from-different-parts-of-the-country\/","title":{"rendered":"Parents follow their children on various map services &#8211; news Norway &#8211; Overview of news from different parts of the country"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>When the map on Snapchat was launched in June 2017, there was concern that young people shared their position unfiltered to their entire friends list.  The function gives you the opportunity to show all your contacts where you are on a digital map, but also the opportunity to limit who can see you.  You can also turn off the division completely, so that no one can see where you are.  It turns out that parents also use the map.  This is to keep an eye on their children.  Some more than others.  We have talked to several young people about how it feels to have their parents follow the snap map.  Among some, this is perceived as reassuring.  For others, it is a breach of trust in the family.  Messages sent to Helsesista also confirm this.  Record-breaking response It was in connection with the book &#8220;Dare to be an adult&#8221; that &#8220;Helsesista&#8221; Tale Maria Krohn Engvik posted a story on Snapchat in the autumn of 2021 about parents who take care of their children on the snap map.  She asked about the same thing earlier this year, and the story was seen over 2 million times.  Engvik says that it took hours to go through all the answers she received.  Tale Maria Krohn Engvik, better known as Helsesista, is a health nurse.  On the Snapchat account Helsesista, she communicates with young people about everyday life and mental health.  Photo: Karine Jonsrud Pedersen \/ news &#8211; The younger young people it was, the more unproblematic it was for them that their parents followed.  For most of the older teens, it felt worse.  They wondered why the adults did not trust them.  Engvik wants to remind parents that young people can be creative if they feel monitored, and points out an example she has been sent: &#8211; One wrote that they left their phone with a friend when they went to a party so the parents would not see the person on the snapmap.  Then you can ask what is really safe?  Without a telephone, you can not call home if there is anything.  It is only natural to share their position with family In the Horg family from Malvik, everyone can see each other on the snap map.  Even grandmother Johanne (76) is constantly visiting the map service to look after daughter Sissel (45) and grandchildren Maiken (20) and Anniken (17).  Sissel Horg hopes that if the daughters Maiken (20) and Anniken (17) will hide their position from her on the snap map, that they still have it on for someone else they trust.  Photo: Private &#8211; For me it is completely natural to wear it, then grandma knows when I am home and if it is appropriate to call, says Anniken (17).  She has no problem with the family being able to see where she is, and says she has never felt that the snap map is something she must wear, but wants to.  &#8211; We have a very good dialogue at home, she says.  Johanne Horg (76) and daughter Sissel Horg (45) are frequent users of the snap map.  Both to take care of each other and others in the family.  Photo: Private Mamma Sissel feels great security that she can check where the daughters were last and if they are moving.  She still takes care not to dig and fuss so much.  &#8211; I&#8217;ll never force them to wear it if they do not want to.  She believes the key words are honesty, trust and giving each other space to be themselves.  Was picked up if she disappeared from the snap map news has talked to several young people about parents who use map services.  These are some of them: Girl (16) &#8211; Personally, I do not mind that mom needs to see my position all the time, because I do not tend to sneak out, and I always tell her where I am.  But it also makes me feel like she can not trust me, especially since I have never done anything wrong (get drunk, go to a party without her knowledge, smoke, etc.).  Since I do not do such things, I think I deserve her trust.  Boy (17) &#8211; My mom uses snapmap to check where I am.  I think it&#8217;s amazing that my parents can know for sure where I am.  It&#8217;s a nice thing for me, and if something happens to me they know where I am and that&#8217;s great.  Girl (16) &#8211; Previously, my parents used to follow where I was on snapmap.  I was not allowed to go out if I turned it off, and I was taken home if I was not on Snapchat for a few hours.  Eventually we agreed that my parents must trust me so then there was no requirement anymore.  We have also received permission from Engvik to share some of the messages she received.  Health nurse, Tale Maria Krohn Engvik, received many messages when she talked about monitoring on the snap map.  Photo: Screenshot, Helsesista Some people do not have parents on Snapchat.  Others think it is good that the parents follow, but not necessarily on the snap map. Parents also answered Engvik.  Many parents see a sense of security in knowing where their child is.  Some young people also think it is good to see where their parents are.  Some of those who submitted messages to Helsesista were over 18 years old.  She states that they are free to decide for themselves who they want to share a position with.  Datatilsynet: &#8211; Difference in situations Ylva Marrable is section manager in Datatilsynet.  She advises parents to use the snapmap feature wisely, and respect children and young people&#8217;s right to privacy.  Ylva Marrable from the Norwegian Data Protection Agency says that the older the child is, the more intrusive it will feel that parents can follow their movements at any time.  Photo: Ilja C. Hendel \/ Datatilsynet &#8211; There is a big difference in situations.  If you and the child agree to use the function for a specific purpose, such as making sure that the child has arrived safely, it is something completely different than monitoring the child at all times.  She understands that it can feel invasive for children and young people if parents can follow their movements all the time.  Maps do not show who the children are with Senior Adviser in the Children&#8217;s Ombudsman Mathias Lia Nordmoen believes there are better ways to take care of their children than to follow them on a digital map.  Mathias Lia Nordmoen from the Children&#8217;s Ombudsman believes that parents first and foremost follow the digital life of their children because they care, not to have control.  Photo: The Children&#8217;s Ombudsman &#8211; It may tell you where your child is, but not who they are with or what they do.  Instead of monitoring, parents should focus on building secure relationships with their children.  Then it will also be easier to make appointments and maybe together you can find ways to take care of a little, without the children feeling monitored.  He adds: &#8211; One can, for example, agree to be called at certain times, combined with the parents in some situations being allowed to follow where the children are.  He points out that according to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, children have the right to privacy and to participate in their own lives.  As children get older, more emphasis should be placed on their own opinion.  Nordmoen is clear that covert surveillance, to follow where the child is at all times without them knowing, is contrary to this right from the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.  &#8211; It&#8217;s not okay, at least when the child goes to middle school.  If you are worried that the child may be exposed to something, parents can follow a little more, but you should still talk about it together, he says.  &#8211; Talk together Helsesista and Marrable from the Norwegian Data Protection Authority also believe that there is no definitive answer to how parents choose to take care of their children, and recommends sitting down and having a chat.  What is perceived as okay?  Can one find any intermediate solutions?  Helsesista has the following advice for the conversation: Illustration: Screenshot, Snapchat Illustration: Screenshot, Snapchat She also tells about cases where the map service has been misused by parents to exercise negative social control.  She asks young people who experience this to make use of low-threshold services such as the emergency telephone for children and young people (116 111) or chat services such as Sidetmedord and Kors p\u00e5 halsen.  Tempting to turn off on a date Maiken Horg (20) always tells her mother where she is.  In addition, she is aware that the snap map reassures her mother.  &#8211; I know that mum is just interested, and we trust each other.  From left: Maiken Horg (20) and Anniken Horg (17) have almost no problems sharing their position with mom and grandma.  Photo: Private She admits that sometimes it is still tempting to turn it off.  For example, if she is going on a date.  &#8211; Once I was going to test my mother to see how much she actually followed.  I turned off my position for a few hours, but she did not even notice.  Then I realized that she did not see absolutely everything all the time.  But also mother Sissel needs to hide her position sometimes: &#8211; I do not reveal the secret place I find mushrooms, she laughs.  She has also had to talk to her own mother about the map.  &#8211; It was a car trip when I had to stop to sleep.  Then she called since I had not moved for a while.  Then I said if it was like that we could not have on the map.  She basically agreed with that, says Sissel.<br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nrk.no\/norge\/foreldre-folger-med-pa-barna-pa-ulike-karttjenester-1.16018612\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ttn-69 <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When the map on Snapchat was launched in June 2017, there was concern that young people shared their position unfiltered to their entire friends list. The function gives you the opportunity to show all your contacts where you are on a digital map, but also the opportunity to limit who can see you. 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