{"id":32052,"date":"2023-01-31T17:38:39","date_gmt":"2023-01-31T17:38:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/ukrainians-will-not-accept-apology-from-wagner-defector-now-news-urix-foreign-news-and-documentaries\/"},"modified":"2023-01-31T17:38:40","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T17:38:40","slug":"ukrainians-will-not-accept-apology-from-wagner-defector-now-news-urix-foreign-news-and-documentaries","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/ukrainians-will-not-accept-apology-from-wagner-defector-now-news-urix-foreign-news-and-documentaries\/","title":{"rendered":"Ukrainians will not accept apology from Wagner defector now &#8211; news Urix &#8211; Foreign news and documentaries"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>news met Medvedev on Monday evening at Egertorget in Karl Johans gate in the center of Oslo.  He asked Ukrainians to understand that he regrets the mistakes he made while he was allegedly a member of the notorious Wagner group in Ukraine.  &#8211; I understand that it is difficult to understand.  To them I am a villain.  I only ask you to emphasize that I acknowledged it, admittedly late, but I acknowledged it, says Andrej Medvedev to news.  But Natalia Lutsyk, who heads the Ukrainian Association in Norway, says it is far too early to start forgiving.  &#8211; I would like to think it takes several decades, if not several generations, just to start forgetting and forgiving.  Just the words that have been used, and the horrors that we have seen, both from a distance and up close.  Changing your mind means little.  The wounds are still too open.  When the 26-year-old Russian defector met with news on Monday evening, he emphasized that he had not witnessed crimes against the Ukrainian civilian population.  Nevertheless, he would regret what he has been involved in towards them.  &#8211; I have stood up to it.  I ask you not to condemn me, and anyway I apologize.  &#8211; Need to know if he has killed the Leader of the Ukrainian Association in Norway has only followed the Russian defector through the media.  She hopes the Norwegian and Ukrainian authorities manage to find out what Medvedev has actually done in Ukraine.  &#8211; We need to know if he has been linked to murder or torture, or any of the other things we have seen people like him do.  Many people have lost their lives, lost their homes and fled the hostilities.  When the 26-year-old defector meets news, he is alone and without security measures around him.  This despite the fact that he still fears for his life on Norwegian soil.  &#8211; I see it as there are stupid people in all countries.  On behalf of a few, we go to cut each other&#8217;s throats.  It is wrong.  Before we lived peacefully, he now says to news.  He wears gray sweatpants and a hoodie and a black jacket over the top.  The interview will take place right next to the Storting.  &#8211; I have refused security measures.  The Norwegian police are of course watching me, but overall I don&#8217;t need it, he says.  The Russian defector from the Wagner group Andrej Medvedev apologizes in an exclusive interview with news.  &#8211; I ask you not to condemn me, and in any case I apologize.  Claims he witnessed executions Medvedev says there were two reasons why he wanted to defect and flee.  The Russian warfare against Ukraine, which he realized was completely wrong, as well as the internal brutality of the Wagner Group.  He says that they did not hesitate to kill those who opposed war.  &#8211; In case someone refused to carry out orders, they would be shot according to the laws of war.  Furthermore, Medvedev claims that there were several cases during 10 days when he was at a training camp for the Wagner group.  &#8211; Wagner&#8217;s security service came with two mobilized men who refused to fight.  They then gathered several people, lined them up and shot them publicly.  This is how you build a culture of survival, he says.  news&#8217;s \u200b\u200bforeign reporter Jan Espen Kruse interviewed defector Andrej Medvedev in Russian in the middle of central Oslo.  Photo: Helge Tvedten \/ news &#8211; We were sent into the meat grinder, with machine guns against tanks, he says.  news has not been able to verify the defector&#8217;s claims.  At the same time, several international media have written about cases of brutal executions of deserters and soldiers who refuse to follow orders.  Among them the defector Yevgenij Nuzhin, who had his head smashed with a sledgehammer by his former fellow soldiers.  &#8211; Was sent to the meat grinder The brutality of both the Russian military and the Wagner group is also widely discussed.  The group is accused of human rights violations in Mali, the Central African Republic, Syria and Ukraine, among others.  The US has labeled the group a &#8220;transnational criminal organisation&#8221;, and they have been subject to sanctions by both the US and the EU.  Andrej Medvedev met with news in the middle of Oslo city center late on Monday evening.  Photo: Olav D\u00f8vik \/ news Medvedev himself claims that he has never witnessed war crimes committed against civilians in Ukraine.  &#8211; But as long as I was there I did not see crimes against the civilian population in Ukraine.  Maybe the Ministry of Defense does, or someone else, maybe someone got drunk somewhere.  But with us we had, you can say a lot, but we had strict discipline.  We kept order in our own ranks, also to avoid any such incidents where someone got out of control, he says.  Dramatic escape Andrej Medvedev came across the border river from Russia in Pasvikdalen in Finnmark on the night of Friday 13 January.  When he met the Norwegian police, he applied for asylum.  He himself has said that he enlisted as a mercenary in the Russian Wagner group on 6 July last year.  Medvedev tells news that it was the result of stupidity, that he needed money and had no place to live.  He also claims that he had military service in Donbas in 2015, but that he was sent home with shell shock after three months.  Through Wagner, he is said to have been sent to Ukraine and participated in matches there as a team manager, before he decided to leave.  According to Gulagu.net, Medvedev must have served in the Russian military before he was recruited to the Wagner group.  Photo: VK\/Andrej Medvedev The flight to Norway was dramatic.  Medvedev says a lot of people were involved to help him during the escape.  He is said to have jumped over two fences before being chased across a frozen river by Russian border guards.  &#8211; They released a dog, but it got stuck in barbed wire.  I heard two shots, turned quickly and got over the ice and got over to the Norwegian side, on the Norwegian shore, says Medvedev.  Last week he was released from the Trandum immigration detention center at Gardermoen after he was first arrested by the Police&#8217;s immigration unit.  His lawyer at the time Brynjulf \u200b\u200bRisnes said it happened because there was disagreement between the police and the client about the security measures.  To news, the Russian 26-year-old says that he assumes that his life is in danger in Norway.  &#8211; If we look at what is happening now, and we assume that I have decided to tell the world what is going on, I have decided to stand up to it.  Yes, I suppose there is a danger, says Medvedev.  &#8211; I can feel fear, but I am not afraid of anyone.  Because I know I&#8217;m right and I have nothing to be afraid of.  Andrej Medvedev tells news that he will be killed if he is extradited to Russia or Ukraine.  Photo: Helge Tvedten \/ news Medvedev: &#8211; Extradition means death for me The Norwegian authorities are now processing Andrej Medvedev&#8217;s asylum application.  If he is found guilty of war crimes, he will not be given refugee status, and at the same time it could be dangerous to send him back to Russia.  &#8211; Everyone must understand that if I am sent to Russia, it means death in my case.  Everyone must also understand that if I am sent to Ukraine, it also means death, says Medvedev himself to news.  &#8211; I can be exchanged to Russia for a group of officers.  Wagner wants to show that no matter what methods they use, they can get hold of a person, he says.  Putin&#8217;s &#8220;chef&#8221; heads the Wagner Group &#8211; a private company of soldiers fighting in Ukraine.  He makes a lot of money from the fact that the war never ends.  How is he exploiting Putin&#8217;s war?  Camilla Guldahl Cooper, associate professor at the staff school at the Norwegian Defense College, says Medvedev formally has the status of a witness while he is now being questioned by Kripos.  She says that there may be information that can be found in questioning that can form the basis for whether what Medvedev has done should be investigated further.  If he has committed war crimes, he is not entitled to asylum, and at the same time he may need protection.  &#8220;Krekar case&#8221;?  Guldahl Cooper believes this will be a so-called &#8220;Mulla Krekar case&#8221;, where it is difficult to send someone out of the country who may risk persecution.  Camilla Guldahl Cooper, associate professor at the staff school at the Norwegian Defense Academy.  Photo: Forsvaret.no &#8211; He talks about a hunt when he fled, what does that say about his background?  &#8211; He has had help to escape, at the same time Russia has a duty to enforce its border.  It doesn&#8217;t have to mean anything more than that.  It is difficult to predict how Russia will react if Norway ends up granting Medvedev asylum.  So far they have not asked for him to be extradited.  Thus, according to Guldahl Cooper, it is difficult to say whether the Russian authorities put politics into the fact that he has applied for asylum in Norway.  &#8211; Will there be a danger if the information Medvedev is sitting on gets out?  &#8211; It is certainly interesting information.  He has said that he has information about the manager of Wagner.  It will be interesting for Kripos.  We do not know to what extent it will be decisive, and Kripos will not say so either.<br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nrk.no\/urix\/ukrainere-vil-ikke-ta-imot-unnskyldning-fra-wagner-avhopper-na-1.16277796\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ttn-69 <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>news met Medvedev on Monday evening at Egertorget in Karl Johans gate in the center of Oslo. He asked Ukrainians to understand that he regrets the mistakes he made while he was allegedly a member of the notorious Wagner group in Ukraine. &#8211; I understand that it is difficult to understand. 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