{"id":164654,"date":"2025-08-22T21:06:44","date_gmt":"2025-08-22T21:06:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/depseek-has-just-launched-something-that-will-sour-the-day-for-u-s-chip-companies-its-called-depseek-v3-1\/"},"modified":"2025-08-22T21:06:46","modified_gmt":"2025-08-22T21:06:46","slug":"depseek-has-just-launched-something-that-will-sour-the-day-for-u-s-chip-companies-its-called-depseek-v3-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/depseek-has-just-launched-something-that-will-sour-the-day-for-u-s-chip-companies-its-called-depseek-v3-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Depseek has just launched something that will sour the day for U.S. chip companies: it\u2019s called Depseek-V3.1."},"content":{"rendered":"\n

There was a day that \u00a0Depseek\u00a0 surprised half the world by demonstrating that you could go far with less. [Today returns with V3.1](https:\/\/mp.weixin.qq.com\/s\/WUbmBSapVyvxZe6HobD5Qw) and a message that does not go unnoticed: the model has prepared for the next Chinese chip batch. We are not talking about an automatic market overturn, but a concrete bet that points in an awkward direction for \u00a0Nvidia\u00a0 and similar companies. If that technical tune with the \u00a0Chinese hardware\u00a0 translates into performance, the conversation about who feeds AI in China is going to sound very different.<\/p>\n

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[According to the company’s own note](https:\/\/mp.weixin.qq.com\/s\/WUbmBSapVyvxZe6HobD5Qw), V3.1 opens a \u00a0hybrid inference\u00a0 in the purest GPT-5 style: the same system with two routes, *Think* (deep reasoning) and *Non-Think* (quick response), Sygons from your website and app. The formulation is clear: “Hybrid Inference: Think & Non-Think, a model, two models.” The company also underlines that the version *Think* “reaches answers in less time” than its predecessor. That is, not only do the weights change, the inference modes that are already in service also change.<\/p>\n

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The Phrase That Frames Everything: An FP8 “Thought for National Chips”<\/h2>\n

In a comment set in his latest publication on \u00a0Wechat\u00a0, Depseek writes: “EU8M0 FP8 is for the next generation of national chips.” That is the point that \u00a0tenses\u00a0 the rope: it suggests that the company has adjusted the data format, apparently a [FP8](https:\/\/docs.nvidia.com\/deeplearning\/transformer-engine\/user-guide\/examples\/fp8_primer.html) which it labels as EU8M0, for the next wave of \u00a0Chinese processors\u00a0. [Bloomberg and Reuters](https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2025-08-21\/deepseek-touts-model-that-outdoes-flagship-in-agentic-ai-step) collect that message and synthesize it: V3.1 is \u201cpersonalized to function with \u00a0next-generation AI chips\u00a0 Chinese.\u201d In other words, optimization is oriented toward the local ecosystem.<\/p>\n

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FP8 is an \u00a08-bit format\u00a0 that weighs half that of FP16\/BF16. With native support, it allows greater yield per cycle and less memory, provided that the climb is well calibrated. [In the official Model Card of Hugging Face](https:\/\/huggingface.co\/deepseek-ai\/DeepSeek-V3.1-Base), it is noted that Depseek-V3.1 \u201chas trained using the EU8M0 FP8 scale format,\u201d which indicates that it is not only a packaging of weights but that training and execution have been expressly adapted to that precision. The delicate part\u2014and it is convenient to be prudent\u2014is that everything points to a chips’ remittance that will be displayed in the future, since they can take advantage of this scheme natively.<\/p>\n

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So is this bad news for Nvidia? The data from the fiscal year that expired on January 26 indicates that China represented approximately \u00a013%\u00a0 of the company’s revenues led by Jensen Huang. If part of the computation of AI in China \u00a0Classic duo mutates\u00a0 from GPU NVIDIA + CUDA ecosystem to domestic solutions that work with the EU8M0 FP8 format and yield good results (presumably chips from Huawei), the demand for Western solutions could be eroded over time.<\/p>\n

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China represented approximately 13% of Nvidia’s income in the last fiscal year<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

All this occurs on the \u00a0U.S. export controls\u00a0 board: restrictions that sought to halt China’s access to leading chips and that have also accelerated their commitment to \u00a0self-sufficiency\u00a0. This year, the Trump administration rehabilitated the export of the H20, a chip designed for China. Since then, the status of the H20 has fluctuated: among permits, Chinese regulatory pressures, and Nvidia\u2019s plans to present Blackwell-based alternatives. The background message is that the framework is political and changing, and any route that allows China to utilize these opportunities becomes a \u00a0strategic value\u00a0.<\/p>\n

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You must remember another fact that helps to calibrate expectations. According to the [Financial Times](https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/eb984646-6320-4bfe-a78d-a1da2274b092), Deepseek attempted to train its future R2 model with Huawei chips but ran into persistent technical problems. He ended up returning to Nvidia for training, while still working on the \u00a0compatibility for inference\u00a0. That episode does not invalidate the current strategy, but sets the bar: to completely migrate its processes is not simple; it requires, among other things, months of engineering. V3.1, therefore, should be viewed as an iteration. Now the company claims to have prepared its model for the next Chinese chips.<\/p>\n

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And here we have another interesting fact. [Matharena](https:\/\/matharena.ai\/), a platform linked to [Zurich Federal Polytechnic School](https:\/\/ethz.ch\/en.html), evaluates models in real and recent mathematical competitions. It places GPT-5 as a leader, with 90% in \u00a0final response tests\u00a0, while Deepseek-V3.1 (Think) is noted to be lagging, although it is among the best models of the moment. This helps contextualize V3.1 as a competitive model that pushes the boundaries.<\/p>\n

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Images | Xataka with Gemini 2.5 | Matharena and Deepseek screenshots<\/p>\n


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