{"id":106012,"date":"2025-03-14T00:24:17","date_gmt":"2025-03-14T00:24:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/third-meeting-of-consultations-between-unions-and-employers-medef-proposes-to-harden-the-long-career-starting-system\/"},"modified":"2025-03-14T00:24:18","modified_gmt":"2025-03-14T00:24:18","slug":"third-meeting-of-consultations-between-unions-and-employers-medef-proposes-to-harden-the-long-career-starting-system","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/teknomers.com\/en\/third-meeting-of-consultations-between-unions-and-employers-medef-proposes-to-harden-the-long-career-starting-system\/","title":{"rendered":"Third meeting of consultations between unions and employers, MEDEF proposes to harden the long career starting system"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<figure class=\"article__media\"> <picture class=\"article__media\"><source srcset=\" https:\/\/img.lemde.fr\/2025\/03\/13\/0\/0\/3000\/2000\/556\/0\/75\/0\/2f1b523_sirius-fs-upload-1-ppqmivfqzwg3-1741894338868-000-36ue4ea.jpg 556w, https:\/\/img.lemde.fr\/2025\/03\/13\/0\/0\/3000\/2000\/600\/0\/75\/0\/2f1b523_sirius-fs-upload-1-ppqmivfqzwg3-1741894338868-000-36ue4ea.jpg 600w, https:\/\/img.lemde.fr\/2025\/03\/13\/0\/0\/3000\/2000\/664\/0\/75\/0\/2f1b523_sirius-fs-upload-1-ppqmivfqzwg3-1741894338868-000-36ue4ea.jpg 664w, https:\/\/img.lemde.fr\/2025\/03\/13\/0\/0\/3000\/2000\/700\/0\/75\/0\/2f1b523_sirius-fs-upload-1-ppqmivfqzwg3-1741894338868-000-36ue4ea.jpg 700w, https:\/\/img.lemde.fr\/2025\/03\/13\/0\/0\/3000\/2000\/800\/0\/75\/0\/2f1b523_sirius-fs-upload-1-ppqmivfqzwg3-1741894338868-000-36ue4ea.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 556px, 100vw\" alt=\"Le pr\u00e9sident du Medef, Patrick Martin, et Fran\u00e7ois Asselin, pr\u00e9sident de la CPME, avant une r\u00e9union avec le premier ministre et les syndicats, au minist\u00e8re du travail, \u00e0 Paris, le 17\u00a0janvier 2025.\" width=\"664\" height=\"443\"><\/source><\/picture> <noscript> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/img.lemde.fr\/2025\/03\/13\/0\/0\/3000\/2000\/664\/0\/75\/0\/2f1b523_sirius-fs-upload-1-ppqmivfqzwg3-1741894338868-000-36ue4ea.jpg\" alt=\"The president of the MEDEF, Patrick Martin, and Fran\u00e7ois Asselin, president of the CPME, before a meeting with the Prime Minister and the unions, at the Ministry of Labor, in Paris, January 17, 2025.\"\/> <\/noscript><figcaption class=\"article__legend\" aria-hidden=\"true\">The president of the MEDEF, Patrick Martin, and Fran\u00e7ois Asselin, president of the CPME, before a meeting with the Prime Minister and the unions, at the Ministry of Labor, in Paris, January 17, 2025.  <span class=\"article__credit\" aria-hidden=\"true\">Bertrand Guay\/AFP<\/span>  <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">Unions and employers expressed positions still as antagonistic, Thursday, March 13, during the third meeting of consultations on pensions. The MEDEF proposed to harden the long career starting system and thus save money, to which unions are opposed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">On the proposal of Matignon, the social partners were engaged in three months of discussions aimed at <em>&#8221; improve &#8220;<\/em> The pension reform of 2023, which shifted the legal age of departure from 62 to 64 years. In his mission letter, Prime Minister Fran\u00e7ois Bayrou, however posed a <em>&#8220;Requirement&#8221;<\/em> : a return to <em>&#8220;Financial balance&#8221;<\/em> of the system by 2030, which requires the social partners to find 6 billion euros in savings, or new revenues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">Main claim of unions, a return to 62 would cost some 10.4 billion euros additional by 2030.<\/p>\n<section class=\"catcher catcher--favoris\">\n<div class=\"catcher__content\"><span class=\"catcher__title catcher__title--hide\">Read also |<\/span><span class=\"catcher__desc\">    Four questions posed by &#8220;consultation&#8221; on pensions launched by Fran\u00e7ois Bayrou <\/span> <\/div>\n<p> <button class=\"lmd-btn-icon lmd-btn-icon--primary lmd-btn-icon--m js-lmd-dropdown-favorite-toggler\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-controls=\"lmd-dropdown-favorite\" aria-label=\"Lire plus tard\" data-article-id=\"3406178\" data-position=\"lire aussi\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/les-decodeurs\/article\/2025\/01\/17\/quatre-questions-que-pose-la-concertation-sur-les-retraites-lancee-par-francois-bayrou_6503262_4355770.html\" data-status=\"\"> <span class=\"icon__favorites\"\/> <span class=\"js-btn-icon-tooltip\" aria-hidden=\"true\">Read later<\/span> <\/button> <\/p>\n<\/section>\n<h2 class=\"article__sub-title\">A device &#8220;far from its initial target&#8221;<\/h2>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">On Thursday, the meeting mainly focused on the employment of seniors and the \u201clong careers\u201d system, a derogatory mechanism which allows employees who started their young career to leave earlier, extended during the reform of 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">This system concerns today <em>&#8220;22 % of departures&#8221;<\/em> with beneficiaries who generally have good life expectancy, and so he <em>&#8220;Distant to his initial target&#8221;<\/em>the Medef negotiator, Diane Milleron-Deperrois told the press, leaving the meeting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">The employers&#8217; organization would therefore like <em>&#8220;Refocus it&#8221;<\/em> on those who really have <em>&#8220;Started early&#8221;<\/em> And not only carried out a few quarters (summer jobs, students) when they were young. <em>&#8220;It is a principle of equity&#8221;<\/em> but also a <em>&#8220;Economy track&#8221;<\/em>she defended.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">The unions completely oppose it. Enlargement of the system <em>&#8220;Is one of the rare positive points of the 2023 reform that we do not intend to see again&#8221;<\/em>decided, for the CFTC, Pascale Coton.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"article__sub-title\">Approach the subject of arduousness<\/h2>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \"><em>&#8220;We said we closed the door to this discussion&#8221;<\/em>also announced the CFDT negotiator, Yvan Ricordeau. For him, the debate on long careers can only take place next week, when the arduousness is addressed.<\/p>\n<section class=\"inread  js-services-inread\">\n<p> <span>Newsletter<\/span>  <\/p>\n<p>&#8221; Policy &#8220;<\/p>\n<p>Each week, &#8220;Le Monde&#8221; analyzes for you the challenges of political news<\/p>\n<p>Register<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">For the CGT, the long career device must on the contrary be <em>&#8220;Improved&#8221;<\/em>to open up to people affected by periods of unemployment, work stoppage or occupational disease, who are today often excluded because they cannot justify a <em>&#8220;Complete career&#8221;<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph \">The Confederation of Small and medium -sized enterprises (CPME) estimates that the system is <em>&#8220;Expensive&#8221;<\/em> and that we can <em>&#8220;Clearly save&#8221;<\/em> in <em>&#8220;Making him more equitable&#8221;<\/em>. 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