– I heard a brutal sound from my right. A death scream that I have never heard before, said the very emotional man who took the witness box in courtroom 4B in Hordaland district court on Tuesday. The social worker was due to meet with the head of section at Nav Årstad this day. At the same time, a 40-year-old man sat in a conversation room inside the public reception. Then the 40-year-old took a knife out of his bag and attacked department head Marianne Amundsen (57) and colleague Ida Aulin (30). – The defenseless man, and several others in the public reception, witnessed the attack. Half of the conversation room has glass windows that you can see through. – In quick movements he stood up and attacked them, said the witness, and stood up in the witness box to see how the defendant struck the women with the knife. Amundsen was killed, while Aulin got out of the interview room, but was stabbed three times. – I wanted to help. But then I saw the terribly large knife. I simply froze. He was black in the eyes and eyes. Full of hatred, said the social worker who was further down in the public reception and saw what happened. – I still have such a bad conscience for not doing anything. I simply failed them, said the man crying and put his face in his hands. Gave first aid Another Nav employee had his sixth day of work at Nav Årstad this day. When he heard screams and noise from the public reception, he went out to see. He opened a door that had the relevant conversation room directly to his left. Through the glass window, he saw the defendant attack Amundsen. COURT CASE: There were many witnesses to the incident at Nav Årstad in September last year and many of them have been called to court to tell about what they saw. Photo: Jon Bolstad / news She then lay on the floor, while the 40-year-old accused stood over her. – I have never seen anyone hit so fast. There was massive violence and aggression. It was completely extreme, said the witness. He wanted to help, but the door to the room was locked. Then he went to get a chair to smash the glass wall with. But when he returned, the defendant was standing in the doorway with the knife in his hand. – I went into the room, locked the door behind me and knelt down next to Marianne to help. But there was nothing I could do. I shouted to my colleague that “he has killed her”. – What the hell have you done? – I have never seen such a look, in my many years in social services, said the third Nav colleague who told the court about the incident on Tuesday. He came out into the audience reception to pick up a user, when he heard someone shout “he has a knife”. Out in reception, colleague Ida Aulin came running towards him from the conference room. – She was completely gray in the face. It was tough to watch. While the other colleague went in to see Amundsen, he was still standing with the defendant at the door opening to the interview room. – Then I spoke to him. “What the hell have you done,” I said to him. Then he replied repeatedly that “My life is over.” My children have been taken from me”. Attacked the defendant’s statement The second court day after the murder of Nav Årstad began with the 40-year-old defendant giving his statement to the court. On Monday, he told the court that he did not remember anything from the day of the murder. For a long period he had had a difficult time and heard “voices in his head”. – I wasn’t myself that day, said the 40-year-old from the witness box. His defense is that he was insane on the day of the murder. Although he said he did not remember anything, he could still remember that he was dissatisfied with the treatment he had received from Nav over several years. DOESN’T REMEMBER ANYTHING: The 40-year-old defendant says in court that he doesn’t remember anything from the day of the murder. In the police interview, however, he has explained himself in more detail about what he is accused of having done. Defender Morten Grimstad in the background. Photo: Jon Bolstad / news State Attorney May-Brit Erstad believes that he was reasonable and that he acted with intent. On Tuesday, she attacked the explanation that he did not remember anything. Because in a total of six meetings with the police, he has explained what happened inside the interview room. – I lost my temper. And attacked her, he said in a police interview the same day. – Has something happened in the last six months that makes you no longer remember anything from that day?, asked public prosecutor May-Brit Erstad. – No. I said I don’t remember anything, replied the defendant. Impairment The question of whether he was responsible or not is central to the trial. Forensic psychiatric experts follow the entire trial to give their assessment to the judges along the way. During defense counsel Morten Grimstad’s questioning of the defendant, it emerged that he was diagnosed with schizophrenia in 2016 and that he also has impaired vision. He got the diagnosis after brandishing a knife in front of two women at Fantoft the year before. The defense attorney told the court on the first day that the defendant has believed for many years that he is the father of one child. Police investigations have shown that the child does not exist. – He still has this right-of-way position, Grimstad told the court on Monday.
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